tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-136542606652219171.post1730046438266940684..comments2023-11-16T04:56:27.425-08:00Comments on Blackfeminists: Less is Not More When It Comes to Black Women and the MediaJhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14197888676706989614noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-136542606652219171.post-189063097968437582012-03-06T06:30:26.803-08:002012-03-06T06:30:26.803-08:00I too am pleased to see that Victoria has responde...I too am pleased to see that Victoria has responded to this. Since her article is the only one in the mainstream press, that I am aware of, that has looked at the original data. It would have been good to see here a blog post that looked at the similarities and differences that might occur between responses from Black British women and the results of the survey - or even between black and white women of the UK. Instead we have an attack on the journo, who her jokes aside, has actually produced a very thoughtful piece - all be it based on what African-American women think. The original survey collates the responses of American men & women – black and white.Triciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01175464557314424554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-136542606652219171.post-38749711604210281672012-03-05T07:34:37.467-08:002012-03-05T07:34:37.467-08:00Good on Victoria for addressing the points made he...Good on Victoria for addressing the points made here.<br /><br />I think the point about class being important in whether or not women think it's important to be financially independent is interesting. But the words 'a successful career' makes it sound to me like something more than financial security (as opposed to, say, 'having a well-paid job' - but maybe that's just my reading of the tone. It would be really interesting to see the racial and class differences between the answers of those two questions (the job vs career ones)<br /><br />I'm trying to work out what your argument is about the pursuing other interests stats. I get that those stats don't mean no black women are obsessed with beauty, but it does mean that black women put more significance on other interests - that's just what the figures mean. As VC said, it doesn't mean that black women have nothing to complain about - just that they seem better-adjusted in this particular metric than white women. I agree that it's not as simple as it seems and it would be fascinating to see some more contextualised research on why this might be the case.josietjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05155615783495442880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-136542606652219171.post-17355726677077485872012-03-04T19:16:58.868-08:002012-03-04T19:16:58.868-08:00[from Victoria Coren]
Hi Lola. Just to say - of c...[from Victoria Coren]<br /><br />Hi Lola. Just to say - of course I wasn't saying in the piece that black women have NO body / self-esteem issues. I mean look at Beyoncé: such a rare creature, a black woman of massive international fame, who does those weird album covers in bright light that make her skin look paler and with her hair all straightened and blonde. I have no idea if that's her personal lack of faith in her own beauty, or a cannier idea of what's needed to make money, but either way it seems a sad thing to do with the spotlight. And the survey didn't say *0%* of black women had issues, their figures just looked a lot healthier than the white ones. <br /><br />I respect your right to say I shouldn't even comment on matters like this but I think what I think and it's my personal belief that there can't be an EMOTIONAL difference between black and white women, only a difference of experience / treatment / life etc. So I was looking for cultural reasons why there was such a discrepancy in the figures for "self esteem" and it struck me that maybe white women are more screwed up *because* they (we) appear to be represented in mass media but actually it's a false representation we can't live up to. <br /><br />I really wasn't trying to "reassure" black women that they should stop complaining!! That line about saying they'd be mad to want more visibility in Vogue was a bitter comment about Vogue. I think these media have the potential to damage all women, the black women who are ignored and the white women who are misrepresented - it's just my view, and I'm sorry if you were offended by it.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16812905403823414097noreply@blogger.com